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30th April 2009

Jacob’s Island Residents’ Association (JIRA)

Minutes of the Eleventh

ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

held at

7.30pm on Thursday 30 April 2009

City Hall, The Queen's Walk SE1 2AA

       

Present:        JIRA Committee Members:

                Colin Hartridge-Price (CHP) – Chair

          Parvin Alizadeh (PA) – Secretary

          Garry Hughes (GH) – Treasurer

          Phil Nutburn (PN) – Communications/Webmaster/Providence Sq Block A Rep

          Jeremy Hendy (JH) – Technology Specialist

          Duncan Macleod (DM) – Providence Tower Representative

          Catherine Milsom (CM) – Springles Wharf Representative
          Michael Smith (MS) – Providence Square Block B Representative
          Jane Hendy (JaH) – Providence Square Block B Representative
          Lewis Phillips (LP) – Providence Square Block C Representative

        Additionally, approximately 40 JIRA members
         

Apologies:      Steve Argles (SA) – JIRA Committee Garden Coordinator

In attendance: Valerie Shawcross, London Assembly Member for Lambeth & Southwark

1.      Chairperson's introduction

CHP welcomed everyone to the 11th Annual General Meeting and introduced Valerie Shawcross (London Assembly Member for Lambeth and Southwark) who was responsible for allowing JIRA the free use of a City Hall meeting room for the fourth consecutive year.  Ms Shawcross commended the good work being done by JIRA and wished everyone a successful meeting.

CHP introduced the Committee members present and thanked them for their hard work and support.  He drew attention to the fact that at the last AGM, Catherine Milsom had been appointed as the Chair of JIRA, but she had subsequently stood down as she felt she had a conflict of interest.  Catherine felt she had a conflict due to also being a director of the freehold-owning company for Springalls Wharf, from which JIRA had taken a £5,000 loan to cover legal fees for the right to manage project.

The JIRA Committee had appointed CHP to the Chair in October, but he and the whole of the Committee would be standing down later in the evening, and will offer themselves for re-election.  CHP emphasised that new Committee members would be very welcome and encouraged everyone to think about volunteering. 

       
2.      Minutes of the 2008 AGM and matters arising

The minutes were agreed as a true record.

CHP drew attention to the comments that were made at the last AGM regarding what is said to be a Banksy on the River wall opposite the Providence Square gardens.  We cannot be absolutely certain this is a Banksy, as it is not clear whether the website on which it appears is officially his (or hers).  CHP asked if anyone present could provide any enlightenment, but no one had any information.  If it were a genuine Banksy, its value might be £200,000 to £300,000. 

Removing the over painting would cost about £700 plus VAT, and Peverel has agreed to pay half the cost up to £350.  The balance would be met by owners through the maintenance charge.  Peverel has accepted no blame for the over painting and has said that their on-site painter and decorator "cannot have been expected to recognise the distinction between the alleged Banksy and 'normal' graffiti”.

The meeting agreed that, for the time being, the “Banksy” should not be restored. 
       
3.      Chairman’s Report
on the past year and current maintenance issues

It was less than five years ago that some of us will have squeezed into the upstairs room at La Lanterna for a fairly lively JIRA AGM.  At the time I had only just joined the Residents' Association so it was rather a baptism of fire.  There were many complaints about Peverel’s lack of maintenance, but we have come a long way since then.

In the last five years about 60 non-routine maintenance or security issues have been addressed, including:

    • a 24-hour concierge
    • security improvements, including colour CCTV with more cameras
    • the removal of unregistered bicycles from the basement car park, almost exactly 2 years ago
    • Fox barrier round the basement car park
    • complete internal and external redecoration
    • improvements to the gym
    • and of course replacing the moat liner

For the last two years we have had a permanent painter and decorator -- Mark O'Brien.  He keeps the common parts looking fresh despite the fact that the internal redecoration was completed four years ago.

Gardeners have proved unsatisfactory and two have come and gone.  However, we now have Andy Roberts who has only been with us a few months but is doing an excellent job.  JIRA Committee member Steve Argles continues to devote a lot of his spare time to ensuring the gardens, and the development in general, are well maintained.  Many thanks to Steve for that.

Caretakers have also come and gone.  We now have Tom Koko who was recently taken on permanently following a stint at the developments as an agency worker.  He is doing a good job.

For the last year we have also had a Peverel on-site Development Manager -- Angus Bearn -- who is at the development from 9am to 5pm on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday.  It may just be coincidence, but this change coincided with our decision to obtain Right to Manage.

The last 12 months has seen the completion of the major work of complete external redecoration and repairing sections 2 and 3 of the moat liner.  Unfortunately the cost of the repair to the moat liner is not covered by the buildings insurance, as no insured peril has operated.  The NHBC has also denied liability, on the basis that the damage to the liner is not a structural issue.  Berkeley Homes will not accept liability -- more on that later. 

TV Upgrade
An issue that has been around for a long time is the TV upgrade, which the vast majority of owners asked for in a development-wide survey conducted by JIRA three years ago.  This has obviously not been a priority for Peverel and the slow progress is down to them.  Having said that, there have been other more important issues (such as the external redecoration and moat repairs) for Peverel to concentrate on. 

There have also been a number of issues to overcome with the TV upgrade, not least of which was the form of the upgrade, and system testing which thankfully confirmed the existing cabling could be used.  JIRA Committee member Jeremy Hendy has put in a huge amount of effort to ensure Peverel is working with the right technical specification.  Without his help and the persistence of JIRA, I don't think this project would ever have got off the ground.

We are now moving towards the conclusion of the TV upgrade.  The latest consultation period ended on 20 April and very few residents raised any objections.  Obviously we live in a community and we all have to accept the majority view. 

The upgrade is to enable residents to obtain IF THEY WISH satellite and terrestrial TV services, including Freeview.  We will all pay our share of the cost of this upgrade to the basic infrastructure.  It will then be down to individual choice (and individual cost) as to what TV services you wish to receive.  If you want to stay with your current choice of TV provider, there will be no additional charge beyond that for the basic infrastructure upgrade.  The cost of the infrastructure upgrade will be higher for the leaseholders in Providence Tower than elsewhere, due to the relatively low number of apartments.

The next step is for Peverel to advise owners of the basic cost that everyone will have to pay, and the additional cost that you can choose whether or not to pay depending on what TV services you actually wish to receive.  It is hoped Peverel will write to owners in the next month, once tenders from contractors have been received. 

Providence Tower
Towards the end of last year, Angus Bearn wrote to the owners of properties in Providence Tower with suggestions on how to reduce the problem of overheating in the summer.  He has ordered keys to enable residents to open the landing windows for ventilation in hot weather.

A Health and Safety inspection took place today for the whole of the development.  I am told that buggies and bicycles on landings at Providence Tower have been identified as an issue and may be removed, particularly if blocking the dry-risers. 

There are unsightly scratches on a number of the Providence Tower lift panels.  The cheapest remedy would be for the on-site decorator to paint the panels in situ (the panels cannot be temporarily removed), but this will mean the lift being out of use for a number of hours.

CHP confirmed with those present that there were no other maintenance issues specific to Providence Tower that they wished to raise.

Springalls Wharf
Peverel are currently dealing with a number of problems at Springalls Wharf.  The renewal of the roof covering to the lift shaft in September 2008 has not cured the problem of rainwater entering the shaft and causing the lift to malfunction.  A surveyor's inspection report has confirmed that the new roof covering and the lead flashings are in good condition.  The remedy proposed by the surveyor is for a shallow pitched lead covered and timber framed roof covering, similar to the adjacent shaft.

The proposed remedy for the leaks to the foyer roof at Springalls Wharf is for the roof covering to be replaced -- it is 11 years old and the normal life expectancy for felt roofs is 10 years unless a high specification roof covering has been used.

The curtain walling is also to be inspected so as to seal any gaps that might be causing leaks into a couple of Springalls Wharf apartments.

A resident raised a problem with water leaking from the flat above and staining their walls.  It was recommended that this be pursued with Angus Bearn.

CHP confirmed with those present that there were no other maintenance issues specific to Springalls Wharf that they wished to raise.

Providence Square
At Providence Square there is uneven ground settlement in the block paving in front of what was Hills Electrical.  There is also settlement elsewhere, particularly along Block A (numbers 1 to 47A) where the brickwork around the vent wells to the basement car park has dropped away from the main building.  Again, Berkeley Homes, the buildings insurer and the NHBC have so far denied any liability.

CHP had received today from Angus Bearn a report on the "Geotechnical Investigation" that was recently undertaken.  This investigation included digging trial pits at seven locations at the end of February, and laboratory testing of the substrata recovered. 

In the main, the settlement has occurred at places adjacent to the walls of the basement car park.  In part, this is due to the nature of the ground at Jacob’s Island and even if remedial work is carried out, there is a risk of continued settlement.  The surveyor has given an informal view that it would be very difficult to prove previous poor workmanship, in order to recover the repair costs.

The remedial work recommended in the report is repair of the areas where significant movement is observed.  This would involve removal of the surface and sub-base, and this then being replaced using suitable compaction.  Information is awaited from Peverel on how it is intended to proceed.  Where there is a definite trip hazard (such as the block paving on the public area outside what was Hills Electrical) Peverel has been asked by JIRA to arrange remedial work as a matter of urgency.  Repairs to the block paving are actually urgently being arranged by Hills Electrical, as they want to sell their Providence Square offices.  Quotations have already been obtained, but who will meet the cost has yet to be confirmed by Peverel.

Marisa Cassoni said she felt the issue of the uneven block paving outside Hills Electrical was down to Berkeley Homes, being the result of inadequate workmanship during the construction of the development, and if there were to be a tripping accident it would therefore be Berkeley Homes who would be liable. 

DM was invited to express his view.  He emphasised that he was not at the meeting to provide legal advice and was attending in a purely personal capacity.  He stated he was however familiar with this area of the law.  He indicated that if an individual were to suffer a tripping accident on account of the uneven paving blocks outside Hills Electrical then the injured person’s immediate remedy would be against the occupier/occupiers of that land (i.e. Hills Electrical and/or Providence Square ABC Limited in this case), depending on who was responsible for and exercising control over the land.  DM explained that legally there can be more than a single “occupier” of land who may be liable in such circumstances. 

There was uncertainty as to whether that land formed part of the common parts of the Estate or whether it formed part of Hills Electrical’s demise.  If however a legal claim were to be instituted against the occupier of the land, and if the subsidence was caused by the deficient workmanship of Berkeley Homes, then it would be open to the occupier to join Berkeley Homes into the legal action as an additional party.  DM pointed out that it might be far from straightforward to prove that Berkeley Homes was in fact at fault and legally liable, and that the joinder of Berkeley Homes would add to the complexity and costs of any litigation.

CHP thanked DM and went on to refer to a new item.  The Provenance Square gym had been closed for redecoration last December, but was already again showing signs of damp along the outside wall.  Drainage from the water fountain will be redirected, and other action taken to try and prevent surface water remaining on the car park side of the wall.  It is hoped this will improve matters, as further remedial work could be quite expensive.

CHP acknowledged there are some leaseholders who do not want money spent on the gym, but estate agents tell us it does influence purchasers and the gym is a definite plus point when trying to sell a property.  Peverel has a responsibility under the lease to maintain the gym in a good state.  The cost of the new flat screen TV in the gym was £3.67 per apartment.

Following the repairs to the moat liner, some of the ground floor wooden decking still requires repair and staining.  This work is due to commence on 11 May, depending on weather conditions.  The independent surveyor engaged by Peverel will then check all the work and authorise the final payment to the contractor for all the moat repair work.  We will then be given a certificate for the 20 year liner guarantee.

Unbeknown to JIRA, Angus Bearn has obtained a survey report on the entrances to Block A (apartments 1 to 47A) as he feels the entrance ramps here are rather steep and could be a hazard.  It appears they do not meet current disability access guidelines.  Moreover, the issue seems likely to be raised in the Health and Safety Report, as it was commented on by the Inspector during his investigation today.  It is for Peverel to decide how to proceed, but the view of the JIRA Committee is that there appear to have been no complaints or accidents in the last 11 years, despite the heavy snow this winter, and that nothing should be done unless there is an actual request from leaseholders.  No doubt Peverel will be contacting the owners of the blocks concerned for their views.  The cost of work of this nature would have to be met by the owners in the individual blocks.

CHP confirmed with those present there were no other maintenance issues specific to Providence Square that they wished to raise.

Thames wall
The Environment Agency requires us to make repairs to the Thames side of the River wall.  About 20 to 30 square metres of brickwork requires re-pointing and of this perhaps 6 or 7 square metres will require rebuilding of the surface brickwork -- the wall is actually many bricks deep.

Most of the work falls approximately underneath the area between Springalls Wharf and Providence Tower.  However, it is not clear whether the repairs to the Thames wall are the responsibility of leaseholders or the Port of London Authority (PLA).  This is being investigated.  The repair work is not especially complicated and Angus Bearn has estimated costs of perhaps £15,000.  He has also suggested that perhaps £3000 per year should be accumulated in a reserve fund for the future maintenance of the River wall.

Those present acknowledged that the Thames wall protects us all, and noted the particular vulnerability of the basement car park if the Thames flooded.  Subject to establishing liability, those present agreed they would have no objection if all leaseholders at the development shared the cost of the work required by the Environment Agency, and the ongoing cost of accumulating a reserve fund.

[Chairman's note: Robin Tam has subsequently provided useful information that indicates repairs below high water mark could be the responsibility of the PLA.  Angus Bearn has advised the Environment Agency accordingly, and a response is awaited.] 

       
4.      Treasurer’s report – Garry Hughes

GH presented the audited accounts of JIRA for the year to 31 December 2008.  Copies of the accounts had been among the papers available at the entrance point to the meeting.

Income for the year amounted to £1110 and total expenditure was £1825.  This expenditure comprised two items -- £518 for catering at the 2008 AGM and £1307 in fees paid to the lawyers dealing with Right to Manage (RTM).  More RTM expenditure would be incurred in 2009.

The cleared balance at 31 December 2008 was £6,995 after allowing for two loans of £5,000 each from the freehold-owning companies for Springalls Wharf and Providence Square Blocks ABC.  These loans were to enable JIRA to meet the legal costs of achieving Right to Manage at the development.

The JIRA membership subscription for 2009 is £25, but a number of members had chosen the option to pay £50 to cover membership for the three years 2009, 2010, 2011. This equates to £16.33 for each year.

GH responded to queries, and the accounts were approved.
       
5.      Appointment of the Auditor

Andrew Donaldson was reappointed as the JIRA Auditor.
       
6.      Election of the JIRA Committee

CHP explained that a requirement of the JIRA Constitution is for all Committee members to retire annually, although they may offer themselves for re-election at the AGM.  Between AGMs, new Committee members can be appointed with the agreement of the other members.

The only resignation from the committee since the last AGM was Marisa Cassoni, whose support would be greatly missed.  Marisa had been the Chair of the JIRA Committee for the four years up to the 2008 AGM.  Michael Smith had recently been appointed to the Committee.  CHP thanked Marisa and all the Committee members for their time, effort and support over the preceding year.


All existing Committee members were willing to stand for election again, but Parvin Alizadeh wished to stand down as Secretary.  Lewis Phillips would be standing for election to the vacated post, having been Secretary for almost four years up to the 2008 AGM.  Phil Nutburn was finding he was able to spend less time at his Providence Square property, and therefore would stand for election as Webmaster only.

CHP said the Committee would welcome new members and he urged those present to additionally put themselves forward for election either as a general Committee member or for one of the roles specified in the meeting agenda.  There is no limit to the number of Committee members.

There were no additional volunteers and the following were therefore duly nominated and re-elected as members of the JIRA Committee:

      Colin Hartridge-Price   Chair                          
      Lewis Phillips              Secretary  
      Garry Hughes                Treasurer                          
      Parvin Alizadeh          
      Steve Argles            Garden Coordinator
      Jane Hendy                     
      Jeremy Hendy                Technical Adviser                  
      Duncan Macleod         Providence Tower Rep
      Catherine Milsom        Springalls Wharf Rep
      Phil Nutburn            Webmaster
      Michael Smith

                        
CHP confirmed he would be responsible for maintaining a database of e-mail addresses for communicating with JIRA members.

       
7.      Right to Manage and next actions – David Currey

CHP explained that achieving Right to Manage (RTM) would allow leaseholders to choose who should manage the development.  The current Managing Agent, Peverel OM, is one of the parties in the tripartite lease that applies to all our properties and the legal advice is that it would therefore be difficult to appoint a different Managing Agent.  It was not necessarily the intention to replace Peverel, but RTM would give leaseholders the ability to do so if that was what they decided they wanted.  RTM would give leaseholders better control over cost and service levels.

David Curry (DC) was not a JIRA Committee member but had been leading on the RTM project, in particular liaising with the lawyers, BP Collins.  CHP invited DC to address the meeting.

DC said that RTM had proceeded fairly smoothly for Providence Tower and Springalls Wharf and RTM had been achieved for both buildings.  However, there had been a number of problems with regards to Providence Square Blocks ABC (the Blocks around the water gardens). 

Following legal advice, we first proceeded on the basis that these three blocks were a single unit, which was how they had been treated for the purpose of acquiring the freehold.  However, having advised Peverel that we had obtained the necessary support from owners for RTM, Peverel maintained that for the purposes of RTM, Blocks A, B and C should be treated as three separate units. 


The situation was not straightforward and, although we had legal advice that Blocks A, B and C could be treated as one, it was decided that it would be more cost-effective to undertake the RTM process all over again, separately for each Block.  There were concerns about the legal advisers we had been using initially, and we therefore switched that appointment to BP Collins.

Despite the switch in lawyers, RTM for Providence Square Blocks ABC had progressed extremely slowly, not least because of problems in trying to obtain a response from all leaseholders and a number of changes in the individual at BP Collins responsible for seeing the project through.  RTM for Providence Square Blocks A, B and C had still not yet been achieved.

DC advised the meeting he no longer wished to take the RTM project forward, and had informed the JIRA Committee of this on 7 April.  He invited questions from the floor.

CHP advised the meeting that he had not previously been involved with the RTM process but was now liaising with BP Collins to establish what more needed to be done to achieve RTM for Providence Square Blocks A, B and C.  He thought it might be possible to complete RTM within little more than a month, but this depended on how quickly BP Collins acts.  He had already found it difficult to obtain responses from BP Collins and there was no evidence they were making progress.

In answer to questions, CHP confirmed that the same board of directors had been registered at Companies House for each of the RTM companies.  No changes had been made since the initial filing, and the only individual named as a director was David Currey.  The other two named directors were companies -- RTM Secretarial Limited and RTM Nominee Directors Limited.

CHP thanked DC for the work he had done.
       
8.      Nomination of Directors for the Right to Manage Companies for:

    • Providence Square Blocks A, B and C
    • Providence Tower
    • Springalls Wharf

RTM directors can only be elected at an Annual General Meeting of the companies, in accordance with the Memorandum and Articles of Association.  CHP advised the meeting that the original intention had been to have the same directors for each of the RTM companies, so as to ensure a co-ordinated approach on behalf of all owners to the management of the development.  More recently, concerns had been raised about potential conflicts of interest, and at the level of representation for each building -- e.g. directors from Providence Square on the boards for Providence Tower and Springalls Wharf. 

If the directors for each RTM company are leaseholders only in the corresponding building, it would seem necessary to have some way of ensuring there is communication and cooperation (where appropriate) amongst the individual companies.  There are obviously ways this can be done.  For instance, it might be appropriate to have one director (or perhaps just an official observer) common to all companies so that each board of directors can be kept informed on what other boards are doing.  If there was a common director, they might perhaps not to have a vote.  An alternative would be for the directors of all the RTM companies to meet together.


Before asking for views on the above from the floor, CHP asked whether anyone present would be willing to stand for election as an RTM director at a properly convened company AGM.  In due course it would be necessary to invite all members of the RTM companies to say whether they were willing to offer themselves for election.  At present there were four volunteers -- Garry Hughes and Marisa Cassoni (both of Providence Square); Robin Tam (Providence Tower) and Melanie Hunt (Springalls Wharf).

[Chairman's note: Catherine Milsom (Springalls Wharf) has subsequently confirmed she is also willing to stand.]

There were no further volunteers from the floor, and it therefore seems likely that the same board of directors will apply for each RTM company, as originally envisaged.  Catherine Milsom and Robin Tam confirmed they saw no problem with such an arrangement.  Ultimately it will be for the members (i.e. leaseholders) of each RTM company to decide how to proceed, as they will be electing the directors for their company. 

       
9.      Recovery of repair costs from Berkeley Homes and others

JIRA has no locus to institute a claim to recover repair costs.  CHP thanked the previous JIRA chair, Marisa Cassoni (MC), who has done a lot of work to establish a claim, including obtaining free advice.  MC believes that, for something in the region of £20,000 a well-known legal firm could write a letter to the various parties and that Berkeley Homes will wish to reach a settlement out of court.  This is based on what Berkeley Homes has done elsewhere.

This has been discussed by the JIRA Committee but we feel we are not in a position to recommend that leaseholders commence legal claims against Berkeley Homes, Peverel OM and perhaps other parties, especially in the absence of an authoritative analysis and informed assessment of the prospects of success, the risks and the potential costs involved.

A lawyer on the JIRA Committee also has doubts as to whether the Right to Manage companies would have locus to bring proceedings.  Any legal action is likely to be based on a claim for breach of contract or negligence, and none of the RTM companies were in existence when any cause of action in contract or negligence arose.

In the 10 years plus since the Estate was developed and sold, leaseholders/residents have changed.  So, the members of the RTM companies will not be the same body of persons who contracted with Berkeley Homes, or to whom Berkeley Homes, Peverel and other potential parties may have owed a duty of care. 

There is nothing of course to prevent leaseholders/residents banding together in a group to institute a claim providing they have a community of legal interests.  Each leaseholder/resident must have an individual entitlement to make a legal claim -- for example for breach of contract or a claim in negligence. 

The claims for breach of contract against Berkeley Homes are likely to be confined to the original purchasers.  Similarly, only those leaseholders who were owed a duty of care at the relevant time may  have any claim in negligence.

Even if an appropriate legal vehicle to bring the proposed claims was available, the task of preparing, presenting and pursuing the proposed claims would be demanding, very time consuming and potentially a logistical nightmare.  Many potential claimants may already have left the Estate and moved elsewhere.  Others who potentially might have had, for example, a contractual claim against Berkeley Homes may have suffered no loss in that they had moved away before the increased service charge to cover the cost of moat repairs was levied.

Contributions towards the costs of pursuing the claims will need to be collected from those who wish to pursue the claims and are entitled to do so.  Those who do not wish to participate in the legal claims would rightly object to being saddled with the cost of pursuing them.  This type of legal claim and action would be far from straightforward to organise.

Even if these difficulties could be overcome the only sensible basis on which interested leaseholders/residents should consider bringing forward such claims would probably be if lawyers could be persuaded to undertake the claims on a “no win, no fee basis”.  Even then, insurance would need to be obtained to cover the potential legal costs and disbursements in the event that the claims failed.  The chances of finding lawyers prepared to take on these far from straightforward claims on the basis of "no win, no fee" are considered to be slim.

A proposal put to a JIRA Committee meeting was that claims be made against Berkeley homes, Peverel OM and perhaps other parties, such as the planting contractor.  It was suggested that very large claims be put in with the hope that a strong letter of claim prepared by expensive lawyers would cause the parties to settle the claims without a legal contest. 

The JIRA Committee feels this is an extremely optimistic strategy.  To date, Berkeley Homes has denied any responsibility for Estate problems such as the moat, settlement and loose cobbles.  This instils no confidence that an early settlement, or indeed any settlement, would be achieved.

Further the claims are likely to be fraught with complications and difficulty.  For instance, the piercing of the moat liner by the roots of inappropriate planting may have been the fault of the planting contractor, who is now bankrupt.  If the planting contactor had relevant insurance there might be a claim under the 3rd Party Rights Against Insurers Act.  The contactor may have had no such insurance.  The contractor/his insurer may dispute the claim entirely. 

Other parties may be blamed and brought into the dispute.  The burden of proving the claim rests with us, the claimants.  If the claim is not established against one or more of the potential defendants and is not proved by us the claimants, then the claim will fail. 

Even if liability can be established against a party who can pay damages, the appropriate amount of damages may be disputed.  The value of the claim that can be made will be no more than the sum of the losses sustained by the participating leaseholders/claimants.  Credit might need to be given for the 10 years worth and function that the moat liner in any event provided.   The reasonable life span of the liner was only 20 years in any event.

We now have a brand new liner hopefully fit for the purpose for a further 20years.  The reasonableness of the cost of repair may be disputed.  Other unforeseen difficulties may arise.  It needs to be appreciated that once we have started down the legal route, costs could quickly and substantially escalate.  As already stated, it has been estimated that £20,000 will be spent in legal fees just to get the parties round the table in hope they will propose an acceptable settlement.

CHP invited comments and there was further discussion.  The position was noted that, for the reasons stated, JIRA would not be making any recommendation that legal action be taken to recover repair costs.

       
10.     Open discussion on Peverel’s performance and charges

For the last year we have had a Peverel on-site Development Manager -- Angus Bearn -- who is at the development from 9am to 5pm on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday.  He can be contacted at any time via the Concierge desk.  John and Sandra Clatworthy on the desk are a mine of information if you have any queries or issues on the estate. 

CHP advised the meeting that Peverel has confirmed the fear of any managing agent is that expenditure will be ruled outside the provisions of the lease or judged "unreasonable" by a Leasehold Valuation Tribunal, leaving the agent to foot the bill.  Whilst Peverel has a duty to maintain the developments, they are therefore unlikely to actually instigate any improvements without the support of leaseholders.  JIRA has a good working relationship with Peverel and is regularly asked to provide feedback on issues and proposals.

[Chairman's note: It is always made clear as to whether a view being expressed to Peverel is that of the Chairman only, the Committee, or is a view expressed by JIRA members (in which case the views of members would have been canvassed".]

Angus Bearn and his manager, Stephen Room, had been very keen to attend this evenings AGM but it was decided not to invite them. 

Concern had been raised on what happens to the money Peverel is holding if the company goes bust.  Angus Bearn has provided assurances that money paid by residents goes firstly into a holding bank account which is cleared down to zero each day, with the money for each scheme (e.g. Jacob's Island) transferred into the relevant trust account.  There are no trustees as such.  The money, and any interest on it, is dedicated to Jacob's Island and is entirely separate from Peverel's trading or company accounts.  Angus Bearn has said, it is quite simply not Peverel's money, and so cannot be used by Peverel in the event of liquidation.  There are internal controls as you would expect, such as limits on expenditure by individuals, and of course an independent audit of the Jacob's Island accounts.

MC referred to having been given a letter by Peverel confirming that leaseholders would not be charged directly for Angus Bearn being on-site.  CHP agreed to look into that.  Action CHP

In response to a direct question from the floor, CHP said he thought Angus Bearn was doing a good job.  Angus was proactive in identifying where improvement was desirable (whether in terms of service or Estate maintenance/repair) and was proactive in keeping CHP informed on progress on outstanding issues.  There were regular exchanges of e-mail between Mr Bearn and CHP (often several e-mails a day) on Estate matters.  Other members of the JIRA Committee were also regularly being contacted by Mr Bearn for their views. 

CHP had been the main contact between the JIRA Committee and Peverel for virtually all of the five years that he had been a member of the Committee, and the file of correspondence that he had accumulated in the five years was massive.  Throughout this time, CHP has maintained a schedule of current projects, recording each step of progress so as to ensure Peverel completes projects to a satisfactory timescale.  Similarly, CHP ensures responses are obtained on all outstanding queries.  CHP felt he was in a better position to judge the performance of Peverel than anyone else, and thought that Peverel/Angus Bearn was doing a good job. 

A comment from the floor was that estate managing agents all tend to provide the same, generally mediocre, level of service although it does very much depend on the individual responsible for your particular property.

A comment was also made that the cost of the external redecoration was too high, and so were service charges.  CHP pointed out that all work was put out to tender, so as to obtain at least three separate quotations.  Peverel will then choose the most cost-effective contractor, usually after having consulted with the JIRA Committee.  In the case of the external redecoration, the invitation to tender document had been available in the concierge office, and leaseholders had been invited to inspect it.  It was a massive tome covering the extent and standard of work required in great detail. The contractor chosen had tendered for the work at a much lower cost than other responses.

CHP also explained that some years ago Peverel had agreed with JIRA a fixed fee for their service (as distinct from the expenditure on maintenance etc) although the Lease allows them to levy a service charge 15% of total expenditure.  A comparison with other managing agents about four years ago had indicated that Peverel's service charges were very competitive.  Once RTM is achieved for Provident Square Blocks ABC, it is intended that the RTM directors will invite tenders for the management of Providence Tower, Springalls Wharf and Provident Square.  However, it can be a case of getting what you pay for, so value for money has to be the main criteria.

       
11.     Questions from the Floor

Peverel’s Accounts – there was a request for more details about how the figures in Peverel’s accounts for the development are calculated, particularly with regard to existing reserve funds and whether the money currently going into them is at the right level.  CHP said he would raise this with Angus Bearn, but total costs are allocated to each apartment according to the formula set out in individual Leases.  Action CHP

About four years or so ago CHP had gone through the accounts with Peverel (Ian Scott) to identify any changes that should be made in respect of reserve funds.  However, with some of the large projects such as the internal and external redecoration, Peverel's estimate four years ago of the future cost had been way below the eventual actual expenditure.  The accumulation of future reserve funds will be influenced by the past actual experience on costs.

Gym – a request was made for another cross trainer in the gym, but a show of hands indicated that only three attendees supported this request.  It was also pointed out from the floor that there was really no space in the gym for another cross trainer.  No further action is therefore proposed.

TV channels – the issue was raised of the availability of TV channels differing in different rooms in an apartment.  JH confirmed that this problem should be remedied by the TV upgrade.

       
12.      Any Other Business

There being no other business, the meeting was closed at 9.30pm.
       


JIRA Chairperson, c/o Concierge, Providence Square, London SE1, colinhp@btinternet.com